Guild Wars 2: How terrible was this often-maligned expansion really? (2025)

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With the release of the final update of Guild Wars 2: Secrets of the Obscure, it currently seems as if the developers have kicked a hornet's nest. But they haven't done anything – and that is probably the big problem for loud fans who vent their anger on Twitter, Reddit and in the official forum. In short: the “culmination” of an expansion was a disappointment. And I won't lie – I've been ranting in my own four walls for the last few days, even after my frustrated article before the release of the update. The story is bad, the “grand finale” doesn't even have fancy cutscenes. No elite specs.

So the question arose: Was the expansion a complete fiasco? No. Or was it? I looked at the best parts of SotO together with GW2 fans. What were the highlights of Secrets of the Obscure?

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Fantastic Main Hub: The Wizard's Tower is the perfect progression from Arborstone in End of Dragons. No long routes to crafting stations, banks or trading posts. No annoying NPC statements that repeat themselves over and over again (THIS IS A DEN OF REFUGE!). Here I even hope we can keep this place – why something new? Can't you magically take the thing with you?

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Source: Arenanet The Wizard's Tower is a great gathering place for players with all the crafting stations and other service points you need in SotO.

Weapons are stripped of their elite specs: Only those who have SotO can use the Illusion Axe as a Chronomancer Mesmer, for example. Or the Untamed Hammer as a Soulwalker Ranger. Or the Scrapper's Hammer as a Mech Driver Engineer! This means that many more builds are possible and cool weapons are not tied to less interesting specs.

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Source: buffed Thanks to GW2: SotO, you can also swing the hammer of the scrapper spec with the Mech Driver – it's still a celebration!

New weapon types for your classes: On top of that, Guardians now wield pistols, Necromancers wield swords, and Revenants wield a lightsaber scepter – there is still room for improvement, but the door has been opened for significantly more playstyles!Skyscale and Griffin rejoice: With the use of updrafts and ley lines with the flying mounts, GW2 has become even more fun. The Skyscale fireballs allow for siege damage and also provide fun target adventure races.

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Source: Arenanet Spit fireballs with Skyscale, also use updrafts and ley lines of the Glider Mastery on Griffin and Skyscale – great upgrades for our flying mounts!

Legendary armor for open-world fans: After years, players who wouldn't touch PvP and raids with a tongs are now walking around Tyria in legendary armor. We have Obsidian armor to thank for that! The legendary set is available to open world fans. Is that quite a grind? Sure. Does each of these armor pieces replace an entire armor slot until the servers are shut down at some point? Yep!

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Source: Arenanet The legendary obsidian armor is now also available at rank 2. The fancy set saves open-world fans from having to visit WvW or dungeons.

The Wizard’s Vault: It's basically the “Daily&Weekly System 2.0”! There were some initial difficulties and not everyone is a fan of having to decide how much PvP, PvE or WvW they want to play. But now it's always a lot of fun to do the weekly and daily tasks.

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Source: Arenanet The Wizard's Vault offers different rewards every quarter – you can't miss these, but can also buy them later for an additional charge.

Relic System: Perhaps a controversial topic, but overall I would say that the separation of runes and relics is a positive. After all, we can now use some strong rune stat bonuses and then choose the appropriate relic. The selection of relics still seems a bit limited in the endgame (there are simply too few options). But similar to the new weapon types from point 3, I would say that this is a work in progress with a lot of potential.Tolle Launch-Story: Emphasis on the release and maybe just parts of it. But… the entry into the world of wizards. Dwarves made of flesh and blood. A scary demon who ignores our “personal space”. A nice Mursaat and a Jotun lady! The return of Zojja! New and interesting characters like Galrath, Gladium, R'tchikk. I was really hooked here. The focus on Kryptis demons was of course as bad as I had described it last time…

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Source: buffed A Mursaat, and a nice one at that? The initial story of GW2: Secrets of the Obscure was really gripping because of the many cool elements. Wow, I found more that appealed to me and others in Secrets of the Obscure. Of course, that doesn't mean that Arenanet is fine. The developers want to publish a kind of “retrospective” on Secrets of the Obscure from the developers' perspective soon. I'm very excited to see which criticisms from the fans they address. If any. After all, they're already working on the next expansion, which should be released in three months.

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Guild Wars 2: How terrible was this often-maligned expansion really? (2025)

FAQs

Is Guild Wars 2 fun without expansions? ›

You don't need any expansion or living world season. The mounts (drake, springing rabbit, skyscale, griffon, stingray...) are in the Path of fire expansion. It is also the best expansion to my mind. Basic Raptor comes with any expansion.

Will Guild Wars 2 have a 4th expansion? ›

Guild Wars 2: Secrets of the Obscure is the fourth expansion pack for Guild Wars 2. Its development was confirmed on March 22, 2022, and officially announced on June 27, 2023. The release date was Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 09:00 UTC-07:00.

Is Guild Wars 2 still good? ›

Yeah, it's probably worth it. GW2 is one of these games where old content is not always abandoned content, you still see really many players alking around in the older expansions, simply since it's still worth doing them. So the age of the game is not really a disadvantage.

Why is Guild Wars 2 crashing? ›

If you are having problems running Guild Wars 2, the data archive may have become corrupted. This can lead to crashes, disconnects, and other issues that disrupt your ability to play, and which need to be repaired before the game runs properly.

Can I play Guild Wars 2 casually? ›

Theres pretty much no MMo thats more “casual” than gw2. No gear treadmill, no timegated content (some rewards, crafting or stuff like that are, but you can always play what you want to play), most things are account-bound so its great for making a bunch of characters, its easy to get into, etc.

What is the max level in Guild Wars 2? ›

When a character accumulates enough experience, they will gain a level and receive level rewards up to the maximum level 80. Depending on a level, rewards unlock new skills and mechanics, providing various game tips and guidance, increase character's attributes, grant hero points, and unlock equipment of higher rarity.

Will there ever be Guild Wars 3? ›

Guild Wars 3 has quietly been confirmed. Although Guild Wars 2 was first released way back in 2012, it's still one of the most popular MMOs with active servers and just last year dropped the generally well-received fourth expansion, Secrets of the Obscure, with more to come in 2024 and 2025.

What is the secrets of the obscure expansion gw2? ›

Secrets of the Obscure is ArenaNet's fourth major expansion pack to Guild Wars 2, releasing on August 22, 2023. The expansion introduces a number of new areas and features to the base game: 2 new maps and the Wizard's Tower Outpost.

Is Guild Wars 2 still populated? ›

Guild Wars 2 has approximately 300,000 to 500,000 daily active players. active players Guild Wars 2 is no doubt one of the most popular games of 2023. playercounter.com has an active 'Players Online' button you can refresh.

What is the most popular class in Guild Wars 2? ›

Current meta favors Revenant, Engineer, Mesmer, and Necromancer most, with Ranger and Thief being the next most common. Guardian isn't as popular as it used to be, but is also still incredibly incredibly strong. Warrior builds are a bit one-note, but get the job done.

Will Guild Wars 2 end after end of dragons? ›

Despite the expansion's name, it has been stated by the developers and the Studio Director that End of Dragons is not the end of the Guild Wars 2 storyline nor the end of the game development.

How long to beat Guild Wars 2? ›

When focusing on the main objectives, Guild Wars 2 is about 88 Hours in length.

Is GW2 a dying game? ›

While some may believe that Guild Wars 2 is a 'dead game' when compared to WoW or FFXIV, ArenaNet has shown PCGamesN new stats that prove otherwise.

Is GW2 shutting down? ›

As noted, we aren't. To my knowledge at least. We would announce any shutdowns in advance of them happening, and we don't have any such statement. Generally this will only happen for games with low player counts too, and GW2 still has a dedicated community playing.

Is Guild Wars 2 profitable? ›

In 2022, revenue derived from the MMORPG "Guild Wars 2" amounted to 95 billion South Korean won. This represents an increase from the previous year.

Do you need addons for Guild Wars 2? ›

But is not mandatory. 2) You can play with no addons. The most useful is probably ARCdps but needs to be reinstalled every time the game is patched, so I'm not fan of it. Yolo Mouse is also useful since the in game pointer is terribad (yes, even after the high contrast option).

Can you get a mount in Guild Wars 2 without the DLC? ›

Characters on Play for Free accounts will get a 10-hour trial of the raptor mount when they reach level 10. Accounts with any expansion unlocked will be granted permanent access to the mount after they reach level 10 (or the next multiple of 10) on a single character.

Is Guild Wars 2 base game worth it? ›

Absolutely, totally worth it, i've been playing since 2015. This game has a solid player base, GW2 is a game that was exclusively available outside of Steam for nearly 10 years and has been on Steam for less than 2 years.

Do you need to spend money in Guild Wars 2? ›

Guild Wars 2 will never require a monthly subscription or any other fees to play! Whether you decide to play on a free account forever or make a one-time purchase to upgrade your account with the latest expansion(s), you have the freedom to continue playing the game without ever spending another dollar.

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